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		<title>Community building and technology</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gagan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just like a Posse ride is a tool in keeping the aspirational outlaws among the baby boomers and Gen X, engaged with the Harley Brand, the MMO game ( any social network based rebellious activity) can act as the tool to engage the Gen Y / Millennial generation.  ]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-302" title="GBHOG Banner" src="http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/GBHOG-Banner-1024x256.jpg" alt="" width="525" height="130" />While Exploring the Harley Owners Group (HOG) in the Brand Asset Management class at school the discussion moved towards the creation of communities around brands,with communities being defined as dynamic socially-structured groups sharing:</p>
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<li> An ethos and set of values</li>
<li>A moral responsibility and obligation to the group</li>
<li>Hierarchies of membership with understood advancement processes</li>
<li>Rules and behavioral norms with sanctions and rewards</li>
<li>Common language, rites, rituals &amp; symbols</li>
<li>Agreement about who the group &#8220;are not&#8221; as well as who they &#8220;are&#8221;</li>
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<p>In the case of Harley Owners Group, the particular use of <a href="http://www.customsystemsinc.com/2005PosseRide.html" target="_blank">Posse Rides</a> was being explored. The point being that there is <strong>a brand persona associated with Harley which is reinforced by the Posse Rides</strong>, creating a group of die-hard influences, free PR and above all a sense of hierarchy in the HOG community where participation in the Posse Ride is the right of passage into the riding elite.</p>
<p>The picture looks just so perfect right now.</p>
<p>The discussion then moved on to the next point: <strong>pondering that technology had nothing to do with community creation</strong>.  Hence all the noise we keep hearing that online social media is not what makes communities. This part didn&#8217;t sit well with me. <img src='http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong><a href="http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hells-angels.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-309" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="hells-angels" src="http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hells-angels-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a></strong>Lets look at the HOG, their bikes and the posse ride.Why are they a community? What makes someone aspire to be a member?</p>
<p><strong>The HOG community is based one a basic “aspirational promise”: that once you join us you can share the persona of a rebel, an outlaw, the forever-free, macho biker.</strong> In order to have that aspiration though, a consumer needs to have been exposed to Harley’s outlaw history inspired by the likes of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hells_Angels" target="_blank">Hells Angels</a>.  The Posse ride and similar events act as tools for the same. ( <em>edit: as pointed by <a href="http://twitter.com/briggzay" target="_blank">@brigzay</a> the bikes themselves are the tools/media for community interaction. see comments</em>)</p>
<p>There are a few problems here:<br />
Firstly, the Harley riding macho outlaw persona is not an aspirational persona for the millennial generation.The demographics of current Harley users are blatantly obvious, with a clear trend in the wrong direction.  Secondly, the Hell&#8217;s Angels are ancient<br />
history.  The youth might like the outlaw persona but they probably associate it more with &#8220;hackers&#8221; who broke into Twitter than with Harley riders.</p>
<p><strong>What can technology and the Social Web do for Harley?</strong></p>
<p>Technology can create new tools for participating in the HOG culture and can introduce a whole new generation to the outlaw culture.  One of the many things that Harley could try is to be engaged in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game" target="_blank">MMO games</a>. That is where the youth lives and where they express their rebellion.  Why not act as the agent in that safe expression of rebellion?  MMO games share characteristics with real-world communities.  <strong>Just like a Posse ride is a tool for keeping the aspirational outlaws among the baby boomers and Gen X, engaged with the Harley Brand, the MMO game (or any social-network-based rebellious activity) can act as a tool to engage Gen Y or the millennial generation.</strong></p>
<p>MMO games are just one of the many possible places that could happen &#8230;</p>
<p><em>disclaimer: Brand Asset Management is probably the second best marketing class I have attended at Kelley, the best would be Marketing Strategy <img src='http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </em>.</p>
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		<title>Something for no reason ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gagan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is exactly the kind of probabilistic anomaly what might fuel the Infinite improbability drive. Kelley MBA's in a dance flash-mob ! ~ to add to the improbability the cool dude who joins them at 1:09 is the MBA chair roped in a few minutes before the mob.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something wrong here! These MBA&#8217;s seem to have forgotten the very basics  of their capitalistic existence:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;never do anything without a reason, or better still without an adjusted NPV.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is exactly the kind of probabilistic anomaly what might fuel the <a href="http://bit.ly/cT3oQe" target="_blank">Infinite improbability drive</a>. Kelley MBA&#8217;s in a dance flash-mob ! ~ to add to the improbability the cool dude who joins them at 1:09 is the MBA <a href="http://kelley.iupui.edu/faculty/FacultyProfile.cfm?netid=phpowell" target="_self">chair</a> roped in a few minutes before the mob.</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="513" height="386" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9302816&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=FF7700&amp;fullscreen=1" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="513" height="386" src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=9302816&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=1&amp;color=FF7700&amp;fullscreen=1" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>Btw this is one of the sample conversations from last week trying to convince some recruits:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, we are trying to do a dance <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashmob" target="_blank">flash-mob</a> at the b-school. Would you be interested ?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #993300;">&#8220;Sounds Cool. So what are we doing it for?&#8221; </span><br />
&#8220;nothing, just fun; its just a flashmob !&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #993300;">&#8220;hmm- there must be a reason for the flashmob ?&#8221;</span><br />
&#8220;none. &#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #993300;">&#8220;But there must be a one ?&#8221;</span><br />
&#8220;Sorry, none.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. after about 5 minutes &#8230; <span style="color: #993300;">OK. I am in. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #993300;"><span style="color: #000000;">Those last words made me believe that we humans would really not end up as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon" target="_self">Vogons</a>. (I cant say about the finance majors though <img src='http://urbanturbanguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ooops !)  The best part of the mob was that most dancers were self taught via video: </span></span>http://vimeo.com/9096337<span style="color: #993300;"><br />
</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #993300;"><span style="color: #000000;">Hoping for some more randomness soon !</span><br />
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